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another blurb.

2 Thessalonians 1:11 To this end we always pray for you, that our God may make you worthy of his calling and may fulfill every resolve for good and every work of faith by his power,12 so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

As I was reading this last night I was struck by the phrase ‘may make you worthy’.

A lot of times as Christians are taught, you get saved, you’re redeemed, you get your get out of hell free card, reserved for the non-smoking section, thats it, el fin, no mas. As a Christian we’re instantly seen as heaven bound by Christ so we’re already supposed to have it all together and figured out right? Apparently not, Paul knew that and he knew that the Thessalonican’s knew it too. Paul prayed that God would make them worth of Christ’s calling. That sure seems like an active word to me.

Sanctification is a process. I’m still going through it, you’re still going through it and no one has arrived that is still alive.

I go each day praying that I may be made worthy to fulfill His work, whatever it is that he has called me to do, whether immediately or long term.

What are you being sanctified from today?

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I Say Post Modern, You Say, Going to Hell!

Today’s church has gotten stuck, there is a huge battle between the modern church and the post-modern church. The modern church being the answer to the reformation and introduction of the bible to the layman. It’s been there a while, it’s dug its roots in and it’s swung hard right on conservatism. In the past few years a new guy has cropped up, the post-modern church.  His answer is to abandon the modern church, stick it to him and swing as far left as possible while loosely fitting God and all his friends into their web of beliefs.

The biggest problem with the term post modern is every one has their own definition.

post⋅mod⋅ern⋅ism

–noun (sometimes initial capital letter) any of a number of trends or movements in the arts and literature developing in the 1970s in reaction to or rejection of the dogma, principles, or practices of established modernism, esp. a movement in architecture and the decorative arts running counter to the practice and influence of the International Style and encouraging the use of elements from historical vernacular styles and often playful illusion, decoration, and complexity.

Decorative arts, some people see post modernism in the church embracing media and new styles of worship experiences as post modern. Some people think this change is great some people dig their heels in and resist it as much as they can. So what should the church’s response be? Is there an answer in the bible that spells it out for us? Is one side or the other right?

I might get some hell fire and brimstone for this but I don’t think either side has it right!

The church’s goal is edification of the saints and ushering new people into HIS kingdom. It is the great commission, and the great commandment. Love God, Love others, and bring others to love God. Now where does modernity or post-modernity fit into that commission? God didn’t say go out and bring others to me but make sure they follow this one narrow path called the fundamentalist interpretation. On the flip side God didn’t tell you to go out and make sure that people should come to Christ disillusioned to the creed and call of the gospel.

Brian Holt wrote a great blog post evoking some great questions over here. Talking about McLuhan and his media theory. This is widely accepted in and outside of religious circles and there are some aspects we need to sit up and take notice of.

The modern church takes a head in the sand and feet firm on the KJV foundation approach to media and the gospel. If you try to tell them different they spout a pre-conceived canned answer at you that is full of King James prose and holier than thou speak. Music is meant for the message and the message for the music. No toe tapping here. If you talk about media and evoking emotion, the only emotion you should evoke is that of the pastor telling of how Jesus delivered the heathen on the front row from a life of rock and roll.

Those modern churches that do apply media come from the stance that the message should never change regardless of the medium that you choose to use.

The post-modern church adopts McLuhan’s full approach that your medium changes your message. This is what most staunch modernists take issue with, the hugely watered down message. Unfortunately most pastors who swing so far this way came out of the modern church and got burned BAD by it. So naturally their response is to offer an ‘experience’ that is wholly different from what they dealt with as a child.

Most post modern churches have an experiential ‘religion’ where the substance is your reaction to the experience. There is a communal approach to the teaching and Jesus goes from savior king to savior friend. I’m not saying that there is not anything wrong with this view, but I don’t think it can be your only outlook on Christ.

Andy Stanley has a message out there talking about how we put God in a box. Our preconceived notion of how God needs to act, react, be and do. I think this is how both sects of churches have responded. We’ve put God in a box and decided how he should act and react within the confines of a certain worldview.

So how should the body of Christ respond to modernity or post-modernity? That depends on if you want to stick God in a box or not. I stick him in a box every day with my own worldview. Our worldview is just the change in message that the medium has given us. (yes I think McLuhan was correct in his statements that the medium changes the message) I also think there are non-negotiable aspects to the gospel but for every non-negotiable there are 100 negotiable ones.

So who’s going to hell today?

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I say religion, you say……balderdash?

World_ReligionIn my last blog it was pointed out that I made some very pointed statements based on Christian assumptions. I’m not going to back track on what I said because it’s what I believe.

I do want to say that everyone starts with some basic assumptions in life. I assume that when I say things, the Bible and Christ are truths. You may assume that the only truth is what you can touch or sense. There are plenty of assumptions you make on a daily basis without thinking about it. You wake up and automatically assume that you’re going to get up, start moving, breathing and carrying out your day. You assume that you’re going to make it through your day without dying. You assume that your car will start up whenever you get in it. You assume that when you talk to someone they will immediately understand you.

Assume:  “1. To take for granted or without proof; suppose; postulate; posit”

So since everyone has assumptions about the way life works, and about God (one way or another) I think it’s safe to say that everyone has a religion. Now you’re gonna say, “Whoa whoa whoa, I’m an atheist, agnostic, or some other form of someone who believes in no God. I cannot have a religion. In fact I don’t believe in religion, and everyone who has one is a wimp with a crutch. I rely on nothing.”

What’s the definition of religion?

Religion: “A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe,”

Ok that’s great you can continue to be in self denial for a while.
So basically a person’s religion is built upon their assumptions. There are no cold hard facts concerning the beginning of the universe. Everything is a theory. I know, I believe the bible is true and so therefore I must believe in creation, which I do, but that doesn’t make sense to you. So I assume the bible is true and that makes my belief in the beginning of the universe a theory just like yours. Neither one of us were there to tell the other one how it happened. Now we’re on a level playing field.
You and I aren’t so different after all. We both have beliefs in the “cause, nature, and purpose of the universe” and those beliefs are based upon assumptions.

We both have religions, just with different view points, and with different starting points. I believe that there is an eternity; a place called heaven and hell. That we were born into sin and every single person must make a choice to be rescued from that sin. There is only one way that can happen and that is through believing in Jesus Christ, it’s a free gift and there isn’t any way you can earn it or buy it. Christianity isn’t a cure all, it isn’t a guarantee life will get better or easier or that you won’t trip up. It’s a promise that you’re going to spend eternity with God.

Don’t count out what I believe solely on the belief that yours are the right ones and mine are the wrong ones. The closed minded term goes both ways.

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Death and all it’s friends.

I had an interesting run in with a guy in the gym steam room this morning. I’m a big proponent of NOT talking in the steam room, but this guy had a story to tell. It started out by him making comments about being old and at 65 your body starting to slow down. From there he began talking about his dad and how he lived till his 80′s but he wants to live longer than his father. I don’t know what was going through this man’s head but his entire mindset was on living as long as possible. This conversation was very one sided, but it put a lot of thoughts in my head.

He was entirely consumed with his story, so much so that he took ten minutes in a steam room to talk to a complete stranger of his concern of life. I’ll give you the abbreviated piece. “His dad went to the Dr. for a check up and they sent him to the hospital on concern of pneumonia or something like that but he was physically fine. The man went and saw his dad, and his dad said, I’m fine but I’m done. I’m tired of living and I’m going to see your mom (who had passed away). Within a few days he passed away in the hospital. Nothing was wrong. The man then said again he wanted to live a long time, and not be a burden on anyone.”

Out of that I ask you to pray for him. That he will have an encounter with Christ.

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

It really has me thinking though. We run our lives as if there is no end. As if we’re going to live forever in our current state and we need to go as long as possible. Subconsciously is this guy concerned about his eternity? Is everyone? Is that why we put such an emphasis on quality and longevity of life? We don’t want to die because we’re afraid at the end of it nothing will happen or something bad will happen.

Something bad WILL happen.

Life ends and your eternity begins. If you die without Christ you go to hell. You can’t outlive what happens at the end of your life. You can’t fix it yourself.

On the flip side you have people who are so concerned with the inability to fix themselves that they want to end it early and get to the end result. They don’t want to outlive the result, they don’t want to try and fix it any more. They just want what is coming and do not care of the external repercussions (thoughts and feelings of others).

The only problem is the end game is still the same. You start eternity and where you begin the rest of your life, is a direct result of how you left it. (let me clarify that by saying, if you left off with Christ in your life, regardless of your situation, you will begin eternity with Christ).

If you have an eternal perspective. How are you living. Are you trying to live long and out live your consequences? Or do you have the perspective of Paul, that life is better lived with Christ and eternity in mind, and to progress other believers in their faith.

Philippians 1:23 I am hard pressed between the two. My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better. 24 But to remain in the flesh is more necessary on your account.25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain and continue with you all, for your progress and joy in the faith,26 so that in me you may have ample cause to glory in Christ Jesus, because of my coming to you again.

You might not agree with Christ, and eternity. We can agree on one thing though. This physical body will die. So let me ask you this. What happens if your concept of life and life after is wrong. I know you’re concerned with aspects of life and death. Everyone has the thoughts, and everyone is driven to some extent by them. Just on the off chance that there is something beyond what you’re doing right now, shouldn’t you investigate every possibility to make sure that you end up on the right side of the line?

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Your Call

I’m just gonn say sorry for any misspellings or awful sentence structure. It’s 1:30am and I can’t sleep so I thought i’d share instead

This week at camp we’re going through talking about the students call on their lives to not just change their own lives but to be a change agent in lives around them.

We are called to change culture in one way shape or form. Whether in the forground or background. I figured I would take a second to share a bit of my calling.

In college I wrestled with my faith. I was a Christian, I was involved in highschool but in college I got burned out. I just wanted to sit on the sidelines, I was goin to heaven that was good enough.

After I graduated I landed a good job at a Christian organization. By this time I wasn’t quite as apathetic but was still indifferent in my walk, until the church I was visiting’s worship pastor came to me and told me that I needed to start running sound for them at least at a saturday night service.

I was heasantent because I knew I had never done anything like that before. Little did I know my world was about to be rocked for the next two years. The worship pastor poured into our friendship. I became so involved I was basically working my full time job and volunteering full time at church simultaneously. I lived for it and something changed in me. I became uncomfortable at work (I already didn’t like it but this was different) I felt such a strong call on my life to go work in church tech ministry that I about up and quit right when it happened. I met with kent the worship pastor and wanted to work at my church. That never happened but God was growing me. He wanted to make sure I was committed regardless of a paycheck.

After the two years of my job in a Chrisitian ministry being completely miserable and not beig able to take any more I prayed hard about setting a date and moving forward that something would come open. I didn’t look back I set a date a month or so away and the day came and I didn’t have a new job yet but I gave my notice anyways. It was the most liberating feeling.

Within about two or three months I had several interviews with some church in Texas and already had a resturaunt job in Ohio. Before I knew it this “some church in Texas” hired me full time to do youth technical production. I can’t say there has been a day Ive regretted this move or leap. It is exactly where God wanted me and has created and called me for. I wouldn’t rather be doing any thing else.

What’s your call?

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God is God and we are not?

I was approached with a couple statements/questions from a friend that I think are echoed by most people today about God. I don’t have the answers, but I do have my take on it. So in quotes are the statements or questions with a bit of context, and then my response.

- Some awful things happen in the world, some personally.

“But to simply erase all the really horrific things that happen in this world by claiming that He is looking to test us, or prove something, or use it for good… that seems awfully contrite.  I don’t ever really expect to come to understand the mind of God, but He doesn’t seem so loving/good necessarily at the moment.”

- Homosexuality is a choice.

“And so (1) if it is not a choice, and (2) homosexuality is abhorred by God, then where does that leave us in He wants to save us all?  Does He make them gay to give them additional difficulties in finding Him?  Another instance where it is impossible to understand the will of God.”

I can’t say I necessarily agree with your stances on homosexuality but at the same time I can’t say you’re wrong either. I don’t know if it’s a choice or something biological or something mental. There really isn’t a proof positive in any direction, so to say for certain would be foolish. (I’m not saying that it is right here either just that there is no context for cause other than moral depravity which I mention  later)
I don’t think that God does make people gay though. It goes back to what you were saying about there being so much bad in the world. Humanity itself has no more inherent connection with God because communication was cut off. We have that desire for him, and he desires everyone to come to him but because there is that separation there is extreme moral deprivation. I’m not saying God is not in control. Because he is, and he’s evidenced in the fact that we’re still here and breathing. He can’t just step in and say, this is the way it will be, because then we wouldn’t have a will of our own any more.

The whole spiral down ward of society was prefaced in the Bible through prophecy. People act so surprised by all of the wrong in the world, but I don’t know why. Things will never get better until God comes back to take it all back over.

I don’t think it’s impossible to understand the mind of God wholly. There are things that he has hidden from us, like when he’s coming back. There are things in the bible that do not have explicit instruction(or any instruction at all), like whether or not you should see a rated R movie. Then there are things that are black and white, things like moral law.

God himself has his attributes shown throughout the whole bible. I think that while some attributes are conflicting they are also complimentary. You can’t be the sole creator of the universe and not be jealous for your creations utmost affection and attention. You also cannot be a part of those things that are contradictory to your nature. A loose tie is; I cannot breath under water because I’m not a fish. God cannot be a part of sin because He’s Holy and Righteous. So homosexuality is a sin because it’s against the nature of God as much as a lustful thought or a lie is a sin because it’s against the nature of God. That is where Redemption comes in we all have to have it.

I think some of the things you said about “God is good all the time etc.” is true, it’s junk. I think it’s dangerous territory when Christians try to nullify any sin in the world. People don’t know how to answer tough questions and so that crap ends up spilling out of their mouths. I think if you don’t have an answer then don’t say anything. Especially in today’s world where most people are not as familiar with God, Jesus, Christ, Christianity or any other ‘pop’ word other than ‘religion’ you can’t expect those watered down “Jesus” answers to work either. People either want an honest answer or hard core proof. So you have to find a way to start outside of the Bible and work your way in.

Anyways those are just a few thoughts.

feedback? fire away.

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The Ultimate Creative

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth.

Seriously how amazing is it that some one created the beauty and majesty and complexity of our universe and our world.

That same complex creative mind that created the universe created you with the same capacity for creativity, not to mention love, compassion, and depth. It blows my mind that my creative capacity is a tiny fraction of God’s and yet came from him too.

I’ll post a little later on the whole process I’ve taken with this new stage set and a small piece I put together to help promote ending world hunger.

Here is a cool video on being creative (not from a Christian perspective) http://vimeo.com/5376998

Denny

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